Sponsor |  Morosoph | Dec 21, 2007 9:04am | 100: I think that you're looking in the wrong place. The problem isn't altruism, but it is rather those who externalise goodness to the state, or (in the case of the religious) to God. This is why the current state of political ideology is so harmful. The State verses self-interest leaves no room for goodness.
We need to nurture good within ourselves, and within one another. I think that it would also help if we considered God to be immanent, rather than transcendant. |
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Sponsor | | Morosoph | Dec 21, 2007 9:32am | Immanent means (entirely) within nature; transcendent means beyond nature.
I'll grant you that God can reside within and beyond the universe, which would make God transcendent. I suppose that my real problem is with those who would consider a force for creative good to be external, and directing them from without. Such a conception means that one avoids personal moral responsibility.
This is exactly how socialists interact with the state. |
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Sponsor | | Thomas-Jefferson | Dec 21, 2007 9:43am | I am a monist, therefore God is All. He is "thusness", the state of being. Everything that is, was, or ever shall be (even if that only imagined).
Most importantly he is our soul, our foundation of being. Therefore thru love we can call upon his power to Righteously impact our lives. |
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Sponsor | | Morosoph | Dec 21, 2007 9:45am | | 104: Unfortunately, not all believers are thus. |
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Sponsor | | Thomas-Jefferson | Dec 21, 2007 9:49am | Hard to say, but you are probably right. Again w the Ghandi quote:
"Be the change you wish to see in the world". |
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Sponsor | | Morosoph | Dec 21, 2007 9:51am | I'm shutting down in a few minutes, so let us hopefully end upon a tone of agreement:
One law: "Be the change you wish to see in the world". |
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